Hello all,
After months of trouble free driving my 89 928, I made a 10 minute stop
on my way home yesterday and when I came out the car did not turn over at
all. Up until then I didn't have any trouble starting or driving. When I
turned the key, the only thing that happened is the chime didn't turn off,
like I had the door open with the key in the ignition, only the doors were
closed. I could hear the relays click in the fuse panel and the light
dimmed a little when I turned the key later with the door open, but
nothing else happened, like the starter was frozen or the the car was in
drive. Battery power is fine, all windows and everything worked, the dash
lights didn't indicated anything, and the computer never displayed
anything, it just wouldn't turn over. Does anyone have any ideas on what
it could be or anything I should try? The factory alarm is disconnected,
so it shouldn't be doing anything to disable the ignition. It is an 89
automatic, approaching 95k miles.
Thanks in advance for any advice, nothing like having to flatbed the car
home unexpectedly to brighten one's day.
Bryan
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Good post - you gave the model year, transmission, and enough descriptive facts to make an educated guess at the problem.
Possible problems:
1) Bad ignition switch or connection.
2) Bad starter relay (XIV) or connection.
3) Bad starter solenoid or connection.
4) Bad starter or connection.
5) Bad battery or connection.
You can isolate the problem with some simple troubleshooting. You can start from either end of the chain.
Starting at the starter, under the car:
On the starter solenoid, jump from the large battery connection to the
small terminal with the yellow wire.
If the starter does not operate, the problem is either the battery, its
connections, or the starter solenoid or starter. One prime suspect is the
ground cable from the engine to the chassis on the bottom right of the engine.
If the starter operates, the problem is the starter relay, the ignition
switch (not likely, based upon your description of the lights dimming), the
neutral safety switch (ditto) or the wiring among them.
Starting at the central power panel:
Remove relay XIV.
Test terminal 86 in the socket for 12 vdc when the ignition switch is
turned to the start position. No power means a bad ignition switch. The
electrical portion can be replaced separately.
Test terminal 85 in the socket for ground. No ground indicates a bad or
misadjusted neutral safety switch, or the wire to it.
If both of the tests are good, jump from terminal 30 (power) to terminal 87
(load). If the starter operates, the problem is probably a bad relay. If
the starter does not operate, the problem is in the yellow wire, the
starter solenoid, the starter, or the battery cables, including the grounds.
Wally Plumley
928 Specialists